Founder2Founder with Aaron Spivak
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As a seasoned entrepreneur himself, Aaron goes beneath the surface and gets into the nitty-gritty of what it truly takes to succeed. He’ll dive into the habits, behaviors, and routines that set elite founders apart, the tactics and strategies that are working today, and the mindset shifts required to push through the hardest moments. Through raw personal stories, late-night struggles, and breakthrough moments, guests open up about what it really means to grow, not just as a founder, but as a person.
Each week, Aaron sits down with visionary entrepreneurs from high-growth startup founders to seasoned CEOs, for real, unfiltered conversations about the highs, lows, and everything in between. Whether you're scaling a company, launching your first venture, or just looking for inspiration, this podcast will give you the insights, motivation, and real-world advice you won’t get just anywhere. If you're ready to strip away the illusion and get real about what it means to build, sacrifice, and thrive, this is the podcast for you. Join us every Wednesday!
Founder2Founder with Aaron Spivak
From Homeless and Burnout to a 7-Figure Ops Business Owner: Rebecca Kallaus on Starting Over
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In this episode of Founder2Founder, Aaron Spivak sits down with Rebecca Sunnen Kallaus, founder of Business Done Better and creator of the 5-Engine Operating System. With over a decade in business operations, Rebecca has helped companies from solo ventures to $20M+ scale with structure, clarity, and sustainability. She’s also played a direct role in shaping tools at HighLevel to better support founder-led businesses.
Rebecca shares the full story behind how she built her career, from working unpaid at a failing health clinic, to surviving financial collapse, homelessness, and personal trauma, all while launching her first business. She breaks down how she leaned into systems thinking, intuition, and self-trust to build a company that now supports some of the fastest-growing businesses in the space.
Chapters:
02:26 – Early Signs Of Entrepreneurship
03:36 – How Her Upbringing Shaped Her Drive
05:32 – Wanting Structure But Needing To Build It Herself
06:51 – Why She Wasn't Allowed To Work In School
08:40 – Choosing Psychology With No Real Plan
10:07 – Studying Holistic Health And Systems
12:31 – Saving Lives At A Wellness Clinic, But Not Getting Paid
13:24 – The First Major Financial Loss
15:36 – Moving To Hawaii And Taking Another Hit
16:26 – The Relationship That Taught Her Everything
18:24 – Losing $25k+ In One Year
19:17 – Starting Her First Business While Homeless
21:06 – Meeting A Mentor Who Saved Her Life
23:21 – The Moment Everything Began To Change
26:21 – The Power Of Reframing Good Vs Bad
29:32 – Losing Hope, And What Got Her Through
30:49 – Why A Clear “Why” Matters
32:08 – Her Deeper Purpose Behind Helping Founders
34:10 – Building Trust In Yourself
37:02 – Why Intuition Never Lies
41:02 – Breaking Down Her 5-Engine Operating System
42:52 – Why Most Founders Start Backwards
45:38 – Beating Out Major Players For Big Clients
48:07 – What She'd Tell Her Younger Self
50:42 – Finding Clarity In Silence
54:09 – Final Thoughts On Intuition, Momentum, And Rebuilding
Guest Links:
Website: https://businessdonebetter.co/
LinkedIn: Rebecca Kallaus
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